This week, Joseph Spurgeon shares an unfiltered interview from Anatomy of the Church and State with host Jeremiah Campana. Together they tackle the controversial topic of the Crusades—the errors, the bravery, the eternal stakes—and what Christian men today must learn.

Was it all just Roman Catholic works-righteousness? Was it a defense of Christendom? What should modern men reclaim? What must we reject?

If you’ve ever fantasized about being a Crusader—but can’t show up for church or your family—this episode is for you.