The Patriarchy Podcast | Pastor Joseph Spurgeon In this episode, Pastor Joseph Spurgeon sits down with James Baird, pastor and author of King of Kings, to dismantle the modern lie that the state can or should be religiously neutral. From towering pagan idols on American soil to the plain teaching of Psalm 2, this conversation exposes the reality every nation tries to avoid: every law serves a god, and every ruler will answer to Christ. We discuss Christian nationalism, answer objections from R2K theology, libertarianism, and theonomy, and return to historic Protestant political theology rooted in Scripture, the Westminster Standards, and the American founding. This is not about replacing the Church with the State. It is about rulers doing their God-given duty. Christ is King. Over hearts, but also over nations. ________________________________________ ⏱ Chapter Breakdown 00:00 – The lie of state neutrality and America’s pagan idols 02:30 – Psalm 2 and the duty of rulers to honor Christ 04:10 – Who is James Baird and why he wrote King of Kings 06:30 – Why modern evangelical political theology collapsed 11:50 – Christian nationalism: caricature vs historic reality 14:45 – The core argument: government and the public good 17:40 – Answering objections to the syllogism 21:00 – Does this replace the Church with the State? 23:10 – Can the state force Christianity? 25:00 – The First Amendment properly understood 29:10 – Why “protect all religions” is unbiblical 31:30 – Was America a Christian nation? 35:00 – Theonomy, natural law, and civil legislation 41:50 – COVID, tyranny, and bad political theology 44:00 – Is this a recipe for persecution? 50:00 – Pragmatism vs obedience 52:45 – Two Kingdoms theology challenged Final – Christ’s kingship over nations ________________________________________ About the Show The Patriarchy Podcast equips men to embrace God-given masculinity for the glory of Christ and the good of His Kingdom. We speak plainly. We do not compromise. We call men to build, fight, protect, and lead. ________________________________________ Support the Mission We’re raising funds to expand Sovereign King Academy and keep tuition affordable for families committed to Christ’s Kingdom. Give here: https://sovereignkingacademy.com ________________________________________ Connect with The Patriarchy Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThePatriarchyPodcast Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/58tm5zjz Apple Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/f3ruzrsa Website & All Links: https://linktr.ee/thepatriarchypodcast Follow Joseph Spurgeon: X: https://x.com/PatriarchyPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThePatriarchyPodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepatriarchypodcast Gab: https://gab.com/thepatriarchypodcast ________________________________________ Sponsored By Steadfast Cigars – For men who reject passivity and take dominion Order: https://steadfastcigars.com/ Fit Father Project – Discipline. Strength. Legacy. Start here: https://secure.fitfatherproject.com/a/transformation/4539 Books by Joseph Spurgeon It’s Good to Be a Boy – https://a.co/d/7zpEh5D It’s Good to Be a Girl – https://a.co/d/6VlBTzS ________________________________________ Final Call to Action Subscribe. Turn on notifications. Share this episode with men who refuse neutrality. Build. Fight. Protect. Lead. This is the Patriarchy. #ThePatriarchyPodcast #JosephSpurgeon #JamesBaird #KingOfKings #ChristIsKing #ChristianNationalism #PoliticalTheology #Theonomy #ReformationalTheology #TwoKingdoms #NaturalLaw #WestminsterStandards #Psalm2 #ChristianHeritage #BiblicalWorldview #ChurchAndState #Protestantism #ReligiousFreedom #Podcast #FaithAndPolitics #Theology #Christianity